Curse

R.Shayne · Feb 16, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Have you ever gone through Ascension?

You do understand that those missions were meant to prepare you for Pvp. As well as the little arenas scattered throughout prophecies to give you bits of PvP experience.

And Malice, I guess I'll go slave away in the dreadful land of GvG

You mean there not there for legendary cartographer? (This is sarcasm, sorry for the miss understanding)

Never done PvP so have no clue if PvE would prepare me for PvP but I am guessing I would not be very good in PvP without pratice, a lot of pratice. Until players start dropping stuff we will never know. That would be a nice way for farm some rare skins.

"Farm the rare skin, sale to PvP, go to PvP with your collector weapons and get your rare skin back, and repeat."

Snow Bunny · Feb 16, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

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Originally Posted by Ulterion

Wow. It went from "Updates: WTF" to "GvG FTL?" o_O
Anyway (On-Topic)... Updates: Guild Wars is only as good as it's weakest Developer... *Gazes furiously at Skills Balancer* >.>~~~~~

It's pretty sad how crippling Arena Net can become with skill balance updates just to suit casual players... -_- It's personally turning players off knowing they payed for a game, only to recieve a digital communism...? Should we even give Guild Wars so much attention, knowing that in a year (perhaps two) GW1 will become empty? A few things to think about...

FFS.

If you are that bad at this game that you can't deal with 33% speed boost lowered to 25%, and little nerfs here and there, just use ursan, like the other bad players out there.

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Originally Posted by R.Shayne

You mean there not there for legendary cartographer? Never done PvP so have no clue if PvE would prepare me for PvP but I am guessing I would not be very good in PvP without pratice, a lot of pratice. Until players start dropping stuff we will never know. That would be a nice way for farm some rare skins.

No, it wasn't there for legendary cartographer. Titles only came after factions was released, so that point is invalid. How can you criticize pvp if you haven't tried it?

The ascension missions include relic running, base splitting, the like. Preparation for Guild versus Guild and Heroes' Ascent battles. But, you don't PvP, so you don't realize that that's what you're doing.

R.Shayne · Feb 16, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38

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Originally Posted by Kiragi Yagami

Actually, i AM one of those PvP-dislikers. and you honestly think that farming is the reason ANET made this game? it was made to be an anti-grind based game.[/irony]. if all you do in this game is Farm, please smack yourself.

I farm for skins I like, although wish I had Luck, Wisdom, and Treasure maxed out so that I could retain more lockpicks and salvage more gems. Got four more characters I plain to equip with vabbian armor.

The skill balance is geared towards PvP and some PvE suffers, farming is not nerfed, develop a new build and keep right on farming. Why would you solo raptors? With loot scaling why not find a buddy and develop a duo farm, better drops.

Ulterion · Feb 16, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

FFS.

If you are that bad at this game that you can't deal with 33% speed boost lowered to 25%, and little nerfs here and there, just use ursan, like the other bad players out there.

Shows how much you know that I don't even have Ursan Blessing on any of my 10 PvE toons and I can farm easily w/o it. But that's not the point I was making... It's the fact that other "B-A-D" players wish for anet to cut off others by way of skill, nuking the whole community for the sake of casual play. Anet's trying to make money and they don't care about who they have to step on to git it. Ursan Blessing promotes buying EotN (which is why Ursan hasn't been nerfed). Loot-Scaling dries up gold income (forcing players to buy gold online) and put up gold-buying websites that have been up and running since forever (and will prolly never go away cuz it's a big money-maker). It's a way for anet to make that cash (and it's not going away any time soon). People were botting, stealing the competition from anet. What did they do? Anti-botting measures. End of competition. Anet makes all the money (period). Whatever Anet needs to keep the cash flow coming, they will do...

...simple as that.

And the speed buff nerf slows down the rate of drop finds that come in from farming, thus jacking up the prices of whatever those drops are, making the demand for gold rise, increasing online gold-buying activity.

MirkoTeran · Feb 16, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Ulterion

And the speed buff nerf slows down the rate of drop finds that come in from farming, thus jacking up the prices of whatever those drops are, making the demand for gold rise, increasing online gold-buying activity.

OK.... I think we have a PBKAC problem.

Tin-foil hats! Get your tin foil hats right here!

Ulterion · Feb 16, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

OK.... I think we have a PBKAC problem.

Tin-foil hats! Get your tin foil hats right here!

LoL You got jokes! But tell me... Don't all their changes ultimately reflect their interest on money-making? Or is it coincidential that their skill updates slow down farming, which in turn raises costs on gold items & such? Or please do enlighten me as to why they do what they do?

EinherjarMx · Feb 16, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by Ulterion

Shows how much you know that I don't even have Ursan Blessing on any of my 10 PvE toons and I can farm easily w/o it. But that's not the point I was making... It's the fact that other "B-A-D" players wish for anet to cut off others by way of skill, nuking the whole community for the sake of casual play. Anet's trying to make money and they don't care about who they have to step on to git it. Ursan Blessing promotes buying EotN (which is why Ursan hasn't been nerfed). Loot-Scaling dries up gold income (forcing players to buy gold online) and put up gold-buying websites that have been up and running since forever (and will prolly never go away cuz it's a big money-maker). It's a way for anet to make that cash (and it's not going away any time soon). People were botting, stealing the competition from anet. What did they do? Anti-botting measures. End of competition. Anet makes all the money (period). Whatever Anet needs to keep the cash flow coming, they will do...

...simple as that.

And the speed buff nerf slows down the rate of drop finds that come in from farming, thus jacking up the prices of whatever those drops are, making the demand for gold rise, increasing online gold-buying activity.

omfg, you post is full of self righteousness, as if 8% is going to drive up again the economy.

And btw, the people that suggest those "nerfs" have better knowledge that the average l33t farmer who is paranoic enough to think that every step anet takes is against them

Ulterion · Feb 16, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by EinherjarMx

omfg, you post is full of self righteousness, as if 8% is going to drive up again the economy.

And btw, the people that suggest those "nerfs" have better knowledge that the average l33t farmer who is paranoic enough to think that every step anet takes is against them

I'm far from righteous, dude. However, if I feel like something's going a certain way, I'm not afraid to speak (and risk flamers like you from opening fire). It's called Freedom of Speech. So >=P

Full Metal X · Feb 16, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by Ulterion

I'm far from righteous, dude. However, if I feel like something's going a certain way, I'm not afraid to speak (and risk flamers like you from opening fire). It's called Freedom of Speech. So >=P

Is no freedom of speech on Guru, when you created an acount you agreed to the terms of Gurus website and they have the right to take down any post of yours.

Also no one cares.

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 16, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

The harder it is for humans to farm the easier it is for bots to make money.

If items and gold drop at a steady but very small rate, a bot can farm 24/7 and make a hefty amount of cash, whereas a human can farm maybe a few hours per day and make a small amount.

If items and gold have nice drops but the drops decrease the more you farm, a bot can farm 24/7 and make a heftier amount of cash and a human can farm a few hours per day and make a hefty amount of cash. Just adjust the curve so that drops are great at the start and dramatically decrease the more you farm, to the point that after 5-10 hours of straight farming (something only a bot would do, or doing farming on and off to catch those that figure out to script their bots to take breaks and alternate) nothing drops at all for one business day before it is reset.

That way a human can make a good amount of cash in a human amount of time, and while bots can make slightly more, they cannot make a significant amount more.

This would only affect solo farms, since bots afaik don't come in teams.

Snow Bunny · Feb 16, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Ulterion

I'm far from righteous, dude. However, if I feel like something's going a certain way, I'm not afraid to speak (and risk flamers like you from opening fire). It's called Freedom of Speech. So >=P

This update is fine, and really hurts no one, or nothing.

Shadow Kurd · Feb 16, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Death pact is the only interesting change. Doesn't really change much its still the best res in the game

Ulterion · Feb 16, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

This update is fine, and really hurts no one, or nothing.

*Attempts to ressurect Snow Bunny*
I'm using Death Pact Signet!
-Interrupted!-
Awwww... better luck next time?

Snow Bunny · Feb 16, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by Ulterion

*Attempts to ressurect Snow Bunny*
I'm using Death Pact Signet!
-Interrupted!-
Awwww... better luck next time?

'
Oh, and what did you use before?

It's an additional second...if you can interrupt 3 second cast, you can interrupt 2 second.

EinherjarMx · Feb 16, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Rez Signet Should be the best "fast" alternative (FC Resmers ecluded) fo rezzing someone

Ulterion · Feb 16, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

On YOU? I used Unyielding Aura. Res You. Kill You... Res You. Kill You... xD

Burning Blade · Feb 16, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29

GW is PvP oriented? Maybe it was but not anymore since so much time has been put to create new contents in Factions, Nightfall, EoTN. Get off your high heel and accept this sour fact.

Ec]-[oMaN · Feb 16, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Some of the posters from 2007 are epic.

jaeharys targaryen · Feb 16, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by Ensign

The Djinn Haste changes matter in PvE hard mode, as a 33% boost makes you move as fast as enemies while 25% is a bit slower than enemies. As a result the function of those skills has changed pretty radically in PvE.

I literally unlocked HM eotn with my sin as the message for a new update popped up. *crys*

garethporlest18 · Feb 16, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

This update is fine, and really hurts no one, or nothing.

Or anything. Not nothing. I expected so much more of you Snow!

But Ulterion they didn't nerf the skills to nerf farming they did it for GvG balance. The fact some farms used it was just a coincidence. However I do know Anet likes to make it hard/time consuming to get gold.